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« on: February 11, 2010, 10:32:27 PM »

I am about to drive to Arizona in less than 24 hours. I will be traveling through Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, New Mexico and obviously Arizona, at one point coming very close to the US/Mexico border near Juarez (this is the area that scares me the most). I don't have a CCW, but I do not want to travel without my gun. What is my best course of action?

Obviously if I get pulled over I'm supposed to notify the officer right away of the gun, its location, et cetera - correct? But what am I looking at legally for traveling between these states with a loaded weapon? Am I supposed to keep the magazine out of it? In a separate area? Locked in my glove box? I'm not cool with the idea of Rapist McRaperpants trying to crash through my window while I sit at a rest stop trying to recover sanity during the non-stop drive there. It's going so close to Juarez that really sketches me out - so if there are any officers close to that area, any information would be beneficial to me. I don't plan on getting off of 10, but the car does need gas.

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Code of Federal Regulations
Title 18 - Part I - Chapter 44 - § 926a
§ 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms
Release date: 2005-08-03

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000926---A000-.html


  I'm left under the impression that the glove box is NOT where the magazine which is out of the gun is to be stored - but on the inside of a Camaro, there aren't any other places to PUT the magazine. The trunk isn't really a trunk, other F-Body owners can attest, it's more of a glorified "back area".The rest of the ammunition is in its proper box and will be actually packed with some other belongings, because obviously I can't do much with a box, but it's the actual magazine itself that's giving me pause. Sorry if my question seems redundant or convoluted. I'm prepping for a literal twenty-four hour drive and it's snowing in Florida. Hell has officially frozen over.

Other notes: I can't carry the gun on my person, and don't intend to try and conceal it in any fashion. It's a Jericho 941, not precisely small or compact (clearly not the largest either, bu certainly not tiny), and I'm a small girl, so the act of actually concealing it is ridiculous. If there's a way for me to keep it under the passenger seat or in my travel bag, that's dandy. I don't NEED or WANT to have it shoved down the back of my pants.
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2010, 10:45:47 PM »

In Texas, you are legal to have the gun on your person, or in your car as long as the gun is concealed.  I can not speak for the other states.

If you have a handgun openly within a motor vehicle and you are seen by Police, you will be arrested for unlawfull carry.

You can, however place the gun on the front passenger seat, and place a towel over it to conceal it.


Why can't you carry the gun on your person ? 
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2010, 10:54:05 PM »

Well, I did intend to keep the gun itself either in the glove box or in my travel bag, never in the open - so alerting the attention of a Statie/Officer by means of the gun simply being out and about, you don't have to worry there. I'm not quite keen on brandishing it openly :)

I can't carry the gun on me because I don't have a permit - and the gun is impossible to hide. It's not compact, I haven't got a holster, and it would be very obvious if I crammed it down the back of my pants. I'm 5'4, maybe 100 lbs. My jeans I don't even think have room to cram ANYTHING down, actually, so thank god I have nothing that needs to be "adjusted" like men do.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2010, 11:08:05 PM »

Well, I did intend to keep the gun itself either in the glove box or in my travel bag, never in the open - so alerting the attention of a Statie/Officer by means of the gun simply being out and about, you don't have to worry there. I'm not quite keen on brandishing it openly :)

I can't carry the gun on me because I don't have a permit - and the gun is impossible to hide. It's not compact, I haven't got a holster, and it would be very obvious if I crammed it down the back of my pants. I'm 5'4, maybe 100 lbs. My jeans I don't even think have room to cram ANYTHING down, actually, so thank god I have nothing that needs to be "adjusted" like men do.

I understand you now on the carry on your person part.  Either way, you are legal in Texas during your travels here.  You will have to leave it in your car unfortunately unless your going to or from your motel/hotel room.

Before your next trip, get a carry permit.  Your permit would likely be valid in all the states your visiting.

Remember though, that from one East to West, A drive accross Texas will likely take 12 hours or more on IH10
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2010, 11:25:45 PM »

I avoided getting a permit because of scheduling conflicts with my job as well as the possibility of enrolling into a police academy out of state. My boss almost had an aneurysm when I told him I was taking two weeks off to apply with Baltimore City and Albuquerque City Police Departments.

I might end up spending money to get one in Arizona regretfully because the Phoenix PD as well as many others are in hiring freezes and I really just can't wait around for them.

The Texas portion of my trip is slated for about 13 hours. I intend to overnight that so I can be in Arizona by noon.
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2010, 04:26:34 PM »

I avoided getting a permit because of scheduling conflicts with my job as well as the possibility of enrolling into a police academy out of state. My boss almost had an aneurysm when I told him I was taking two weeks off to apply with Baltimore City and Albuquerque City Police Departments.

I might end up spending money to get one in Arizona regretfully because the Phoenix PD as well as many others are in hiring freezes and I really just can't wait around for them.

The Texas portion of my trip is slated for about 13 hours. I intend to overnight that so I can be in Arizona by noon.


Yeah 12 hours if theres no traffic delays.  The speed limit is 80mph on west Texas between El Paso and Junction ( daytime ).

Have a safe trip. Keep us posted on your Police dpt job app status.
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2010, 02:19:46 AM »

Any retired law enforcement officer, who had the power of arrest, who has possession of a Retirement Photo I.D. from her/his department and served more than 15 years and receives a pension for that service as a police and lastly, qualifies with the "type" of firearm being carried, according to standards set by the state statutes in his/her state of residence, that apply to active duty law enforcement officers in that state with the past twelve months can carry a concealed firearm in all 50 states, the District of Columbia and every possession and territory of the U.S.   Google HB 218 for the actual federal statute
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2010, 09:05:31 AM »

Any retired law enforcement officer, who had the power of arrest, who has possession of a Retirement Photo I.D. from her/his department and served more than 15 years and receives a pension for that service as a police and lastly, qualifies with the "type" of firearm being carried, according to standards set by the state statutes in his/her state of residence, that apply to active duty law enforcement officers in that state with the past twelve months can carry a concealed firearm in all 50 states, the District of Columbia and every possession and territory of the U.S.   Google HB 218 for the actual federal statute

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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2010, 05:45:26 PM »

I made it, with only one stop in Texas and one pull-over in Texas. The statie was HILARIOUS, though. I think he was just as bored as I was on that empty ass stretch of road.

And no, I'm not any sort of LEO - yet.
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2010, 11:06:14 PM »

Good deal. West TX is long and desolate for sure.
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